I have the ideal sub. Now what? (17)

1 Name: TAK : 2009-09-16 17:33 [Del]

So my girlfriend (I am male) is a kinky bitch with big tits, tattoos, and piercings. Not skinny, but not a fatty. She is a former stripper. She is into humiliation, extreme bondage, rape/incest fantasies, and s&m - well into the range of being outright, violently and cruelly tortured. And a lot more.

She knows I am a sexual sadist, and capable of getting off on WAY more then should could hope to survive (so I have a 'problem', sue me). She has, before me, never used a safe word. But she asked me to give her the safe word of, and I am not making this up, "Harder, Daddy". I agreed.

>>> I need ideas on what to do with the bitch. <<<

When she was a child, she wanted to grow up to be a whore - literally a prostitute. She enjoys being treated like a piece of meat, and likes being violently raped.

She is bisexual. Sub around males, and switch, preferring Dom, around females. Her taste in women is the same as mine.

Neither of us enjoys scat or golden showers.

I live alone. She is moving in soon. One room is a dedicated Dungeon. It has a (self-made) St Andrews cross. My sadistic implements are on five shelves, each about 1.5' x 4'.

Am willing to build/make new devices for good ideas (but money is limited).

PS: I actually care for her (crazy, crazy, I know) so nothing that would actually kill or permanently disable her... as hot as that would be. We both want limited long term scars, and Ive already figured out what I am going to carve into her hide. Other then that... no limits.

2 Name: Anonymous : 2009-09-16 17:58 [Del]

Wow. You are a lucky, lucky man. She wanted to be a whore? Wow.

I have... Nothing... Just... Wow.

3 Name: Anonymous : 2009-09-16 17:59 [Del]

>>2
I concur.

4 Name: TAK : 2009-09-16 19:33 [Del]

Yeah, trust me, I know... We can even have lengthy conversations about anything (or nothing). I am a damn lucky man, and I am doing everything in my power to be worthy of such an awesome chick.

There are complications, of course, but those are things outside of the scope of this conversation and more a flaw of circumstance then of either of us.

She knows that I like guro and is turned on by it as well. And cannibalism. And loli. etc. I am early 20's, she is mid 20's. I am a foot and a half taller then her. I am well endowed. And a failure with women.

Long story short, I went through a ton of shit. Even before that, I was masturbating to gore/rape/snuff before puberty hit (and it hit me early). Since then, Ive always had a hard time dealing with pretty girls because I feel bad about seeing a pretty body and thinking how much prettier shed look flayed and butchered...

But not so with her, because shes just as fucked up as me. It is.. awesome.

I am thinking of constructing either an elevated, reclined chair with stirrups. Or possibly I could just make something like this: hxxp://www.stockroom.com/common/images/products/J435/J435.jpg

She wants a posture collar, and I want her to have a training corset. I am a bit strapped for cash at the moment, do you have any suggestions on how I could make such a thing myself / get it affordably?

Once the complication I mentioned irons out, I will be willing to share pictures, video, and details of her servitude.

I am not the possessive sort. I have already told her I will have her blind and gag herself before tying herself to my bed's tie points, then handcuff her last free hand to the last tie point. She will then be visited by someone who she doesn't know (a trusted friend and fellow sexual sadist) who will do with her whatever he wants, and then stuff a dollar bill into her cunt as a 'tip' and leave.

She has some sense of propriety in her, how it managed to get in there I don't know, but she is still excited by public nudity. At the public, downtown park in my city there are a couple of spots where you can go and see everyone, but barely be seen yourself. I will likely take advantage of that one night after taking her to one of the bars nearby in a tight miniskirt and a similar band around the center of her breasts, both made of electrical tape. It will have to be cut off, (having her clothes cut off with a knife is another one of our mutual fantasies) which will leave the interesting problem of what to do with her nudity after I am done with it. I am not planning on addressing this concern until it is imminent. [It also occurs to me that such a top would make for excellent "discrete" titty fucking at the bar/club]

I have a very wide cock head, and have never been able to be given a blow job without teeth :/ so I have decided on getting a whitehead gag. I have seen a different type of gag, (a nonadjustable metal hoop with rings every 90 degrees) being used for the same purpose in porn before. Anyone know the name of that, or an alternative?

I am also planning on splurging on a treadmill, and devising a system where in her collar is affixed above it so that she has no choice but to run. I plan to do this for no more then an hour at a time, two times a day. I have a friend who is extremely knowledgeable in bodybuilding and nutrition who is willing to help me make a diet / regiment for her.

After getting her in shape I intend to have her rekindle her career as a stripper. This will provide obvious avenues for my enjoyment... haven't you always wanted to get a lap dance for free, and not have to keep your hands (or cock) off of her? I will of course have to be careful to not get either of us in trouble, or run afoul of our state's conservative laws.

I have a hard time getting off without hurting someone, and she likes to be brought to (and stay at) tears from pain. However, I have a high sex drive and I don't want to do permanent damage. I need ideas on ways I can make her squirm, beg, scream, and cry without lasting damage. I was thinking of caning her with a car antenna.

And of course feeding her desire for dominating big breasted girls. I don't know of anyone for the position just yet, but I am certain we could find someone at a bar (et al) without too much trouble (though I have never been one for bars).

I have a habit to write too much, so since I have written so much I will stop even though I have more to say on the matter.

5 Name: bunny : 2009-09-16 20:59 [Del]

I don't know why you're asking for advice, you seem to have things well thought out and under control. if anything i should be asking you for advice. how did you get to be so lucky?

6 Name: TAK : 2009-09-17 01:17 [Del]

There is undoubtedly a lot of untapped, creative sadism here. I like coming up with such fun ideas, I like collecting them in my memory, and calling them up when I see some pretty thing when I go about my day... plus, no doubt it would serve as a great stimulus for her to know that she is following the perversions of some anonymous internet forum dedicated to some of the most primal, twisted fetishes. And that pictures / videos of her are being put to those perversions.

And about luck... well. I'm an outlier. Precocious puberty. Abused as a child and home-schooled. Inherent Sexual sadism. Asperger's Syndrome, with significant academic talents. Went to public school in 6th grade. Severe cognitive dissonance. Saw a crooked shrink and was put on toxic doses of contra-indicated meds. Survived on about 20 hours of sleep a week for about 3 years.

Came down with a nasty illness, was bed ridden for about a year and a half (still in constant but manageable pain). Spent much of that time on an early social networking site. I spent all the time I could chatting with girls online as it was the closest I thought Id ever get to a relationship. One of the girls I met then was this sub.

She ends up marrying someone else. We talk back and forth, sometimes dropping out of contact for months (or a year or two) at a time. But she was always receptive to my sexual deviant advances, even before I really understood the how and why of my own urges. I was kind and patient, just glad to have someone in my life. I helped her through her problems; marital problems.

Dropped out of contact for a couple of years and went through a personal Renaissance of sorts. I open up, and through friends, (prescribed) drugs, a religious conversion, and a lifetime of effort I finally beat the Asperger's - something anyone who knows anything about it will tell you is impossible. But I manage to do it to a frankly improbable way. (I often don't tell people I have it, not from a sense of modest, but because I have come so far they only see me as an intelligent young man who finds it fashionable to have "The Geek's Disease")

My thinking is now socially prudent, causal, nonlinear, qualitative, and associative - all things that are supposed to be difficult to impossible for people like me. I am however very metacognitive. The reason for, and result of, these improvements to my through process feeds from, and back into, both my religion and abstract mathematical interests.

We recently fell back in contact. I was in a bad place. I was doing everything right. Had good friends, had a dream job, was volunteering, had a shamefully large house to myself, was doing well in school, was co-founding a start up that promises to make me a lot of money... and every, EVERY woman I expressed an interest in hurt me. Each of them hurt me in a too-fucked-up-to-be-made-up way. And Ive spent a lifetime trying to be as gentle and kind of a person as I possibly can, because I know what could happen if I ever let my desires run rampant. I'm too patient and obsessive and clever to be caught (so I feel).

And then I risked it all, by building that St Andrews Cross, then showing it to a female friend of mine of 2 years (a sub who works at a sex shop), while taking her both by surprise and by the front her pants. She was stunned, and I told her what her safeword was. She turned me down.

This was the week after I learned that her father had raped her for years and years, and basically everyone but me knew. And she never pressed charges, never publicly outed him. Convinced herself that she was the only person he'd ever rape. He was a trucker for a while, and gone for months at a time. She let her father fuck her, she was his little whore, and she wouldn't give me a kiss. Wouldn't let me touch her. No one would. I wasn't a virgin, but I was close. What sex I had only served to further damage my psyche, and to train me to view myself as abhorrent abomination.

Less then a month later she married someone else.

I was getting ready to kill myself. I was at the point where I was telling everyone about my deviance and urges and my problem. I even told the girl I made the cross for everything, including my growing desire to rape her... I was desperate to find some way to heal myself. I had tried everything I knew how to quench my sexual sadism (I do not have a sadistic personality, in premise, but sometimes that is only because of extensive, self induced conditioning). I tried every way I knew how to try to find vanilla sex arousing. I couldn't, but the thought of holding a girl down, making her scream, making her beg (for more or to stop, doesn't matter to me), of torturing, defiling, and keeping her alive only so she wouldn't decompose and be unable to serve my urges... that arouses me. I was at the point where I was going to kill myself to keep from raping someone - or worse.

Then I got back in touch with her, and I finally remembered what it was like to have someone who accepts you, wholly. We developed feelings for each other. We have both intentionally stayed away from the L word, but we both know it...

She had been ready to divorce her husband earlier in the year. They went to counseling. It had been going well, but in the 5 years Ive been hearing things about him I havent heard a single thing to convince me that he is either worthy of her, or more worthy then me. Earlier today she told him about me, about her feelings for me. She was going to tell him that if he gave her an ultimatum, she would choose me.

I should have gotten a response from her over 6 hours ago. So now I am fretting a bit, though I know she is probably okay... like I said, the L word applies here. When I am driving and I know she is, I worry more for her safety then my own.

7 Name: Anonymous : 2009-09-17 13:25 [Del]

Well you have an awesome life OP. Like wtfzomg you know. Me too I also have a submissive gorgeous trap with an envious list of fetishes. I'm also rich and have an enormous penis. I have five other girlfriends without dicks, and they all do whatever I want. Honest truth.

8 Name: TAK : 2009-09-17 16:53 [Del]

Eh, I know I shouldn't feed the trolls, but I know that what I said sounded like bragging or trolling, so...

I am not trolling. I wasn't bragging. I am what I am. I am not even proud of who I am. Ive worked my whole life to be the best I could be, obsessively, and while my defeats sting my victories are hollow.

I hate myself.. really this sexual sadism is just about the only thing that brings me any 'pleasure' - and it is of the most temporary type. Even the nice things I do (volunteer work, etc) just exhaust me because I can't look at another human being without thinking about how alone I am, how I would love to carve them up, and how they would react if they knew a fraction of what I lusted for. Every time I get close to a person I just get more distant, because I know they'd turn on me if they knew. Its soul wrenching to smile at everyone every day and put myself through hell to try find a place in this world, but never be accepted, no matter how perfect my facade.

Also, I am not rich. In fact my job pays quite shitty, despite the fact that it requires a highly specialized skill set. I am actually poor... but I make enough to survive. I wasn't the one who paid for my house.

If things work out so that I don't end up with her, I know I will probably never meet anyone even remotely of her caliber. Like I said, I was really close to an hero, and I will probably return there depending on how this plays out.

We'll see. I don't know why she likes me. Or even how. But she does, and I have a shot, and if it works out well... that's the actual purpose of this thread.

I am just looking for ideas. Should everything work out, I will be more then glad to post vids/pics of her following requests.

Again, I am not trolling. I know it may seem like I am but I have no interest in wasting either of ours time or effort.

-- god damn I write too much --

9 Name: Envy : 2009-09-18 04:08 [Del]

>>>7

I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees the glaring unlikelihood of all this.

10 Name: Anonymous : 2009-09-19 04:45 [Del]

Fake or not, that was a hot story.

No pleasure? Take some Es or heroin or some shit like that.

11 Name: Anonymous : 2009-09-19 07:08 [Del]

>I have the ideal sub. Now what?

sounds like you're the sub. be more assertive.

12 Name: Anonymous : 2009-09-25 09:48 [Del]

Interesting story, to say the least, and yet no one has offered any suggesting? Anything you've thought of that specifically won't work? Pardon me for being cliche, but hot wax/ice and electricity (estim) are popular, sensational, and totally superficial. Very few women are able to maintain a clamp on the clitoris, and if she's one of them, I would take full advantage of that. If a pussy flogging is too mild, you might try vacuuming the clitoris first to increase sensitivity.

If you really want to try something fucked up, get some Hydrofluoric acid. It soaks through the skin harmlessly until it reacts with bone, leeching out the calcium. I've heard this is very unpleasant. Just be sure to use far less then lethal amounts (start with diluted drops, perhaps). High concentrations of hydrofluoric acid and hydrogen fluoride gas will also quickly destroy the corneas of the eyes, and will poison you if inhaled. So, you know, take precaution. This stuff isn't exactly safe.

13 Name: Anonymous : 2009-09-25 10:34 [Del]

There are also a host of topical creams you could try on various parts of the body: IcyHot, Tiger Balm, Bengay, Capsaicin Patches, or food equivalents like hot sauce, peppers, horseradish, ginger oil, spearmint oil, maybe even clove oil. The advantage here is they could be applied before going out in public, and something like ginger oil could pass as a perfume and be used while stripping.

I've also always wondered about insects. Mosquitoes, bees, earwigs, what have you. They'd leave a mark, of course, but less than caning. Hell, you could throw together a whole camping trip and work in some poison ivy as well. Just check for allergies first.

Oh! I almost forgot: Money is fucking filthy, so wipe the bill down in Purell or something ahead of time.

14 Name: Benji Z-Man : 2009-09-25 14:56 [Del]

Some of us are lucky in life. I also have a submissive partner. What does your partner do for a living, TAK? If you have put her into a role where nudity is going to be commonplace (back as a stripper, whore, etc), then that will limit your ability to place torture techniques on her.

If you have not assigned her to work of your choosing, do so. Don't ask her - a true sub expects nothing less than unflinching command from you. She wants to become a whore; have her at least part-time walking the streets while you watch.

Just keep a weapon on hand, keep in mind local weapons laws, and keep your weapon of choice one step below maximum allowed, so that the cops will be on your side in emergencies. Watch her. Give her orders to strip somewhere public, or flash somewhere public.

If you can input whether or not her line of work requires her to be dressed or not, I can give you a full spectrum of tortures that should be what she would enjoy.

15 Name: DDD : 2009-09-26 14:38 [Del]

I think it is strange question, unlessyouwant to share pictures or sxperience later, since anyone can be creative enough to invent some stuff, and by the way internet is full of examples.

For example tie her tits, use safety pins, skewers, needles.
You may hang her on the meat-hooks, do some temporary piercings inflate het boobs with saline. etc..

16 Name: Anonymous : 2009-10-01 22:52 [Del]

femanon here... can me and my boyfriend have your girlfriend sometime she sounds fucking amazing. we both like bondage and getting violent with each other and are eventually going to want another girl somewhere in there

17 Name: Lady_wHY? : 2009-10-10 21:56 [Del]

If you want the opinion of a sub like myself, sometimes simple works the best. Simple physical torture like burning coupled with regular mental torture like humiliation. Maybe even make a big show of it just to do something small, leaving the poor dear disapointed due to an anti-climatic ending (Naturaly making it up to her with a sound beating shortly there after.)
It may just be my prefference but perhaps you could try it out for a time and see what she thinks.

And grow some balls, lol. No sub likes an unsure dom.

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