I don't want to run anyone off with this question so I'll give a little background on it. I like to read different psychology books usually pertaining to the violent side of people. I recently read one book where they give a very long list of serial killers who have had accidents where they have been hit on the head in some manner and connect that to violent and sexual thoughts being produce in a unusual manner. But what it doesn't cite are how many people have had head trauma and do not become violent or how many have no head trauma and are still violent.
But it also got me thinking about a connection with Guro. If the theory the book poses is correct and head trauma causes unusual violent and sexual thoughts then it leads to the question of how many here have had some sort of head trauma in their lifetime?
What do you think?
I can't recall any of any sort at any point in my life, and certainly not around when I started getting into guro.
And people getting hit on the head isn't too rare an occurrence. If this 'theory' were correct, there'd be a hell of a lot more serial killers out there, or at least guro fans. It's like a book making a "very long list of serial killers who have consumed juice at some point in their life" and concluding that juice causes serial killers.
I think that the whole whole of criminal phycology is BS, in short anyone that thinks they "know" the mind of an other person is a fool..
You can have a rough idea sure, but saying anything for sure is just stupid.. The people that write those books actually kind of disgust me.
>>>1 What do you think?
I think it's another shallow attempt to rationalize deviant behaviour as being the product of some kind of trauma. If it's not head trauma then it's child abuse, if not that then bullying etc. etc. We're swimming in baseless assumptions that lack conclusive evidence.
>>3
Please stop being an idiot. Dismissing criminal psychology because, oh dear, you can never know anything for sure is idiocy. Theories are what these professionals establish. Theories based on observations of thousands upon thousands of cases.
Yeah, no.
I was never hit in the head. Never had any real serious injury, in fact--not even something as mild as stitches or a cavity. And I realize I just jinxed myself, but oh well.
I love guro. I think it's beautiful. I could look at it for hours. And I'm a pretty "normal" person.
Also, gurofags aren't serial killers. This board is for anime. Anime is not real. I seriously doubt that anyone here sneaks out at night and mutilates actual people only to fap on their remains. This is about fantasy.
I'm not trying to relate Guro fans to serial killers. I know I'm a Guro fan myself or else I wouldn't be here. The basic statement of the book was that trauma to he head (specifically the frontal lobe) can affect how you relate to violence, sex, or one starts to reflect upon the other. This author wants to propose that such trauma can cause a person to deviate from normal thoughts or normal sexual behaviour to something that is considered abnormal.
But what this author specifically focused on are things that can be found regularly in pictures around this site. The study really only looked at serial killers and that bothered me since that seems so broad. Another statement the authour made was that there has never been an artist that committed premeditated murder which I find highly unlikely.
I don't believe criminal psychology to be BS. I think it is actually well founded and has proved itself over and over. I think it is still in its infant stage and should not be taken as that God's honest truth when looking to make a case against someone, but can be used properly to jump start a case that has gone cold. Psychology in general is like that. It is not perfect and should be taken with a grain of salt. Personally, I kind of see psychology as the new religion for the faithless but that is just my opinion on that. That alone is probably what drives me to read so many different opinions on the matter.
Personal experience, I actually did have some head trauma, when I was about four years old. Honestly, I don't think it has anything to do with my love for Guro, but I did want to contribute my experience. I had a head-on collision with a refrigerator, and got about six stitches.
When my mother was pregnant, she drank & smoked a lot. My uncle was trying to get her to miscarry. Her water broke while she was siphoning gas. At some point in my first few months, my mother put me down on the toilet seat & I fell off, onto the floor, twice, hitting my head.
But I turned out perfectly fine. Not a thing wrong with me. (Except for my lack of modesty, but that's a side effect of being awesome.)
As for the whole "violence" aspect... Situations I fantasize about are generally not violent. They usually involve the victim's consent, or in rare cases, they might be some really bad criminal that deserves it.
I got hit in the head, but I think 3 stitches would do less damage than me having aspergers syndrome.
Man, another 'rationalise why you like guro, probably criminal connections to it too' thread? I love these threads :/
Seriously though, no head trauma, any of my draw to guro is psychological and I can usually pin it down where and what might have given me the interest.
>>13
Actually I think he meant lol ass burgers don't rly exist
That or it must be fucking endemic because every site I go on there seem to be at least 5 regs with it, lololol.
I was diagnosed when I was 12. I'm 20 now.
Mine's on the mild side, though. I went to school with some kids who had more obvious symptoms...
It seems like every anime fan who's gone to therapy gets diagnosed with it...
>>15
I'd imagine in a lot of cases it's a misdiagnosis. Doctors must have a hard time just telling people that their kids are assholes.
>>16
The kids I knew who had it weren't assholes...just...out there.
One kid bought one of those cheap Naruto headbands and wore it to all his classes. And I'm sitting there thinking, "THIS is why people hate anime fans..."
>>17
T_T My friend and I did that. Given, I wore mine on my leg where almost no one saw it, but still. I'm proud of my fandoms, but I'm not loud and I don't try and force them on others. Come to think of it, neither was my friend - she was eerily quiet. I stopped wearing mine on my person after a couple of kids started picking on me for it. (I just tied it to my bag like all of my other anime crap)
Ah, but on topic; No severe head trauma here, though my left arm constantly takes a beating. My mom pulled it out of the socket when I was about seven, I broke the knuckles on that hand several times, I block with that arm all the time when I spar with people, and just recently, my left thumb got broken in an automobile accident. But, no head trauma.
Actually, now that I think about it, just before I found Gurochan, I was hit in the head with a tile by some punk-ass kid who thought it would be funny to pick up one and whack me with it. Apparently he thought I would block. Fuckin' a, it was FNM, who thinks they're going to be hit with a random object when they're playing cardgames... Really. I mean, it wasn't even that bad, it just left a little scratch across my nose and a slight headache, and I liked bloody boys before that happened, so I just like this kind of thing because I like it, not because an incident made me that way.
XD
I wear anime shirts, carry anime bags with anime pins and keychains on 'em, and read manga/play my DSi in public. I'm not ashamed of it either, I just wouldn't go that far. lol I learned that when I was 10 and got picked on constantly for my Sailormoon obsession...
Besides, this kid was part of a group of Asperger's-ridden Narutards. >_____>;;
Meh, Asperger's is the new ADD.
I have a story of a guy who had about 75% of his brain matter impaled and grinded out by a metal rod, and all mental injury he suffered was losing memory and getting more aggressive (probably a sign of intelligence loss - lack of rational self-control taken over by temper).
>>21
Care to give us a link?
Because I've read a lot of stories about brain damage, but nothing like that. I mean, 75%? He would BARELY be alive, and even then only with such a huge amount of luck that it could be taken as evidence of the existance of a god...
actually, it's name it after the guy who 'discovered' it. I'm pretty sure he's dead now...
I figured as much, but that's one of the shittiest last names ever.
>>24
You're just pronouncing it wrong. You're not supposed to pronounce it with an American accent.
I think Einstein's name is worse. He's a world famous physicist who was supposedly very smart, yet his name is directly translated to "a stone".
the spike-in-the-head story
Asperger's just means "nerd". The symptoms are:
Being socially inept
Being great in one field
Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
Great pattern recognition
Having personality quirks
More people have it because because being a nerd is better today than it was in the past. It's just evolution.
>>28
You just described me in a nutshell!
...Though, I prefer the term "geek".
I'm an Asperger yet I have none of the problems you stated above. Well, I used to but I evolved beyond that.
>>1
Twice. Once me and a friend were throwing rocks at each other and another time I fell off one of those giant metal playground things and hit my head on one of the bars. Both required stitches.
>This author wants to propose that such trauma can cause a person to deviate from normal thoughts or normal sexual behaviour to something that is considered abnormal.
Is there any proof that the killers had "normal" aggressive levels and sexual fantasies before the hit (or was even at the age to start having sexual fantasies)?
Is there proof that the hit on the head wasn't caused by aggressive behavior on the part of the recipient?
>>22
Dunno, I'm probably wrong, it DOES seem ridiculous and it WAS a story told by someone I can't even remember (because of that head-trauma I already forgot - the one that made me a serial killer). But there might be some credit to the fact that loss of intelligence is related to aggression as a result of either instincts or frustration of being unable to solve something you could easily handle before.
It's not head trauma. One does not become a serial killer from being hit in the head.
33 here... but I did get hit in the head alot... however... if you knew me as a person (outside of here) you would know me to be a good guy who may be a little too smart for his own good (I am not diagnosed with anything... however)
=_= There is a fault in the logic here.
"Everyone who is into guro has been struck in the head" does not equal "everyone who has been struck in the head is into guro". Otherwise, I should point out the following statistic: Everyone who is into guro was once a child!
ZOMG! Lock up your children.
For me, my guro-enjoyment tendencies began in the military; specifically after an accident that cost a team-mate their head in front of me. The expression of violence into my sex drive gave me the mechanism I needed to cope after inadaquite counselling followed.
I can't say that the guro fetishes I have came from getting smacked in the head, I was interested long before any kind of head trauma that I can recall, in elementary school I got smacked in the head with balls a lot and had my head impact the concrete of the playyard twice, though I was still lucid after. But I was happily telling my family about embalming techniques at the dinner table while I was six so I doubt that any head trama had anything to do with it.
shrugs There's lots of factors for people being the way they are, I'm highly doubtful of any sort of findings that people come up with that trace a behavioral trait to one specific source. Heck, even our genetic code doesn't act like that.
A hit to the head is too variable, let alone brains being way too complex. I'm sure you could find a decent chunk of people who have had head trauma and are overtly friendly to people.
I still believe the biggest cause is psychological. A smack on the skull can mess you up of course, but mental trauma is more common and potent I think.
Correlation does not equal causation.
What constitutes head trauma? How severe does it need to be to qualify? What percentage of a control population has sustained an injury in this category? Has anyone /not/ been dropped on their head?
If my life ever does become fucked up, there's a dozen other things I'd blame before a random wang to the head. [Thrown, but not far enough, into a pool. My head clipped the edge.]
This just sounds like a nuclear psychologist who considers any sexual thought as unusual.
If those head-bonked serial killers became that way because of head trauma, then will hitting them in the head again make them become normal, again?
>>40 No, it would be rather neurocentral lead therapy, I guess.
fractured skull in motorcycle-truck accident; but i was like this before that happened
Chronic decapitation was diagnosed to me a few years back. I'm pretty sure that's when it all started.
no head injury, i just hate people. dont give me wrong, i have friends. but most people id rather see spontainasly explode than acually talk to for more than 10 seconds
